Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 120

03/30/2005 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 210 BLOODBORNE PATHOGEN TESTING TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 210(JUD) Out of Committee
*+ HB 54 BAIL REVIEW TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 150 LICENSING RADIOLOGIC TECHNICIANS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
HB 210 - BLOODBORNE PATHOGEN TESTING                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:30:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON  announced  that   the  final  order  of                                                               
business would be  HOUSE BILL NO. 210, "An Act  relating to blood                                                               
testing  of certain  persons alleged  to  have committed  certain                                                               
offenses directed toward peace officers or emergency workers."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SHALON SZYMANSKI,  Staff to Representative Lesil  McGuire, Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature, sponsor,  said  on  behalf of  Representative                                                               
McGuire that HB 210 proposes  to expand the existing policies and                                                               
procedures for testing for bloodborne  pathogens to include peace                                                               
officers,  fire  fighters,  emergency  medical  technicians,  and                                                               
mobile paramedics.  She explained:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     If  an individual  is exposed  to another  individual's                                                                    
     blood  or  bodily  fluid   that  is  contaminated  with                                                                    
     bloodborne pathogens, they're at  risk of being exposed                                                                    
     to  a variety  of  viruses, ranging  from hepatitis  to                                                                    
     [human  immunodeficiency virus  (HIV)].    If a  public                                                                    
     safety officer  feels that he  or she has  been exposed                                                                    
     to  an offender  or prisoner's  blood or  bodily fluids                                                                    
     that could  be contaminated with  bloodborne pathogens,                                                                    
     they  could request  from their  employing agency  that                                                                    
     they be  tested for bloodborne pathogens.   A physician                                                                    
     would  then  be  appointed  to  determine  whether  the                                                                    
     exposure of  the blood or bodily  fluid was significant                                                                    
     enough  for further  testing.   If  further testing  is                                                                    
     necessary,  the physician  will then  take the  request                                                                    
     for a blood sample and  request it from the prisoner or                                                                    
     the offender.   And you can find a  description of that                                                                    
     in the first section of the bill.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. SZYMANSKI continued:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Throughout this  process of  testing, the  person being                                                                    
     tested is protected; their identity  is protected.  And                                                                    
     the test  results will  then also be  passed on  to the                                                                    
     person   being  tested.     The   bill  also   provides                                                                    
     information on  the process in  which the tests  can be                                                                    
     ordered  if the  person  refuses to  give  a sample  of                                                                    
     blood, and  it could therefore  then be ordered  by the                                                                    
     court.   And that would  be found  in Section 3  of the                                                                    
     bill, on  page 4.   This  bill does  not enact  any new                                                                    
     policies   or   procedures  for   bloodborne   pathogen                                                                    
     testing; it simply adds public safety officers. ...                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:33:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANTHONY  NEWMAN, Social  Services  Program  Officer, Division  of                                                               
Juvenile Justice (DJJ), Department  of Health and Social Services                                                               
(DHSS), commented  that the DJJ  appreciates the bill,  but asked                                                               
that the  definition of  a public safety  officer be  expanded to                                                               
include   juvenile  probation   officers  and   juvenile  justice                                                               
officers.   The  current  definitions for  public safety  officer                                                               
include probation officers and  corrections facilities staff, but                                                               
those are  Department of Corrections employees,  whereas juvenile                                                               
probation officers  and juvenile justice officers  fall under the                                                               
purview of the DHSS.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  asked Mr. Newman to  write language for                                                               
his suggested change.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Representative  Anderson   turned  the   gavel  over   to  Chair                                                               
McGuire.]                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:35:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  COUTURIER,  Vice  President,  Anchorage  Police  Department                                                               
Employees Association  (APDEA), testified  in support of  HB 210.                                                               
He stated  that HB 210  will help provide  appropriate protection                                                               
for  police  officers  who   are  accidentally  or  intentionally                                                               
exposed to infectious pathogens via  another's bodily fluids.  He                                                               
pointed out that HB 210 follows  the example set in other states,                                                               
and it will provide safety and  peace of mind for police officers                                                               
and their families while providing  ample privacy protections for                                                               
offenders.   He relayed  his personal  experience wherein  he was                                                               
stuck with  a used needle.   He'd asked  for a search  warrant to                                                               
get  a sample  of  the  person's blood,  and  the magistrate  did                                                               
finally  authorize it,  but the  test still  had to  be taken  by                                                               
force and  the risk  management personnel  would not  provide him                                                               
with the test results.  He remarked  that the bill will go a long                                                               
way towards solving this issue.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG characterized  HB 210  as a  fine bill.                                                               
He asked  whether federal officials  ought to be included  in the                                                               
list of those covered by the bill.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WILL   AITCHISON,    Anchorage   Police    Department   Employees                                                               
Association  (APDEA),  said  he  is not  aware  of  any  national                                                               
protection  existing  for  federal law  enforcement  officers  in                                                               
Alaska, though other states do have such protection.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:40:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  said that  he would like  the committee                                                               
to consider including federal officers in the bill.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE, after  ascertaining that  no one  else wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony on HB 210.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  made  a  motion  to  adopt  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1, as follows [original text provided]:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 6, after "paramedic"                                                                                          
     Insert   "juvenile   probation  officer   or   juvenile                                                                    
     detention or treatment facility staff"                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  then made a motion  to amend Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1 such that it would say:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page  7,  [paragraph]  8, include  "juvenile  probation                                                                    
     officer  or juvenile  detention  or treatment  facility                                                                    
     staff".                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:42:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE clarified:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Conceptual  Amendment  [1,   as  amended,]  will  allow                                                                    
     latitude  to  the drafters  to  get  it right,  but  we                                                                    
     understand the basic ideas  in the definitional section                                                                    
     that applies then  throughout the bill.   Page 7, lines                                                                    
     4-7:  that  section  there   that  will  add  "juvenile                                                                    
     probation  officer or  juvenile detention  or treatment                                                                    
     facility staff".                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE noted  that there were no  objections to Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1, as  amended.  Therefore, Conceptual  Amendment 1, as                                                               
amended, was adopted.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  made  a  motion  to  adopt  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 2, which would define  the term "public safety officer"                                                               
to include federal and military public safety officers.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON turned  attention  to page  6, line  16,                                                               
which   would    require   assistance   from    departments   and                                                               
municipalities, and  asked if federal  departments would  have to                                                               
be added.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG replied that such is not needed.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON opined  that Conceptual  Amendment 2  is                                                               
too broad.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:45:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  said that  it is  not his  intention to                                                               
require the federal  government to comply with  the new statutes.                                                               
He  reiterated that  he  would  like to  protect  and assist  the                                                               
federal officials who might be  at risk at contracting bloodborne                                                               
pathogens while on the job.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON cautioned that  Conceptual Amendment 2 is                                                               
too expansive.  He  noted that page 1, line 10,  and page 2, line                                                               
9,  say  that  the  employing agency  shall  follow  the  testing                                                               
procedure.   He  said, "We  don't have  purview over  the federal                                                               
government."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:46:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG said that he  did not intend to make any                                                               
changes to the term "employing agency."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE  remarked   that  she  understands  Representative                                                               
Gruenberg's point, and  likened it to when a  federal employee or                                                               
military  police officer  is acting  as an  agent for  the state,                                                               
carrying forward  a duty that would  normally be done by  a state                                                               
employee.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ANNE  CARPENETI,  Assistant   Attorney  General,  Legal  Services                                                               
Section-Juneau,  Criminal  Division,  Department  of  Law  (DOL),                                                               
stated that the  bill requires employing agencies  not to divulge                                                               
what they have learned about  individual prisoners and offenders.                                                               
She said, "If we add federal agents, we're not putting a                                                                        
concomitant responsibility on those employers."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG withdrew Conceptual Amendment 2.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:48:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON moved  to report HB 210,  as amended, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying zero fiscal  notes.  There being  no objection, CSHB
210(JUD)  was   reported  from   the  House   Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      

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